It was a casual remark in a TikTok live and he has a penchant for trolling, so take it with a grain of salt, I guess.

R1

Not quite, but almost. (Not sure what that has to do with coming out though. I came out at 13.)

I tried to watch that HBO show with Chloe Sevigny and him, but I think I gave up after two or three episodes. Anything interesting happen?

how did I get on Russian Bi guy TikTok

I guess there will be more of this.

His full frontal scenes were surprisingly good.

How on earth could an underage guy do full-frontal scenes??

And who is this kid? I've never even heard of him...

He didn't. R8 thinks he's being funny.

He's going to be 18 next month, but kids his age don't really know what the fuck they want.

Jack might be bi right now, but in 10 years, he could end up with a wife and kids.

Or, he could be totally gay.

Who knows?

I think he's in that experimental stage right now.

It's still too early to tell, though.

Is this really Jack's dad?

He looks so different from his father.

I love these photos.

Jack is a total twink BOTTOM.

I also may be wrong, but he looks/acts like he's on drugs.

Thank you, R11. Now I can truthfully say I've heard of him and know who he is. I've just never heard of anything he's been in before. I don't think that's a sign of my age, more of my good taste. ;)

You've never seen "It," R15?

Where in the fuck have you been?

His picture should be in the dictionary next to douchebag.

What is "it", R16??

I am an active professional with a social life. I almost never watch TV, but I go to the theatre (in non-pandemic times) regularly. I may be an eldergay, but I don't obsess over little boys and twinks-du-jour.

Here, R18.

It's a horror movie by Stephen King.

It was a blockbuster when it came out.

I stand educated, R19. Thank you.

Oh yes, he's the little shit who couldn't hide his disdain when he knew who would portrait his adult self in It 2.

R18 You're trying too hard

What a precocious little brat!

I'm sure he's talking about me, R23. Some people feel challenged by gays who aren't into popular culture and trying to stay forever young. I abandoned television and popular culture over 30 years ago and have never looked back. All I know of pop culture today is what I read on Datalounge. I actually know quite a few guys who are the same. No aspersions on those who hang on Entertainment Tonight and People magazine (or whatever their modern equivalent are)! This life is all you get, so live it as you want to!

For the record: If I bumped into Jack Dylan Grazer after his birthday and he asked me to fuck him, I would. But I would not make the connection to this thread. He'd just be another twink with a daddy complex...

It's funny - the harder you try, the more you expose yourself.

Interesting to admit you want to fuck a 17 year old though.

[quote] I also may be wrong, but he looks/acts like he's on drugs.

Well, we know he likes weed...but I think what you're referring to is just ADHD.

Is he a descendant of the Sons of Abraham?

It's ok to say "Jewish", r28. And yes, he is.

Yep, R13, that is his dad.

For any who don't know, Jack's uncle is big time producer Brian Grazer. Ya know, Ron Howard's producing partner, that Brian Grazer.

This is the kind of thing where I feel like individual experience plays a role in shaping one's sexual orientation. When you're in LA, which is pretty socially liberal, and you're surrounded by gay directors and producers who want you to play gay while you're sexuality is still in the process of still developing, how could he possibly turn out to be totally straight?

I don't think Hollywood is a good representative of the LA area. JDG grew up in rich, privileged celebrity circles and he's also Gen Z which is the most liberal when it comes to sexuality and labels. A lot of the actors, writers and directors who came to LA tend to be liberal and fleeing their conservative podunk origins. But I'm sure the average Angeleno is diverse in their political opinions.

R32, true.

I would also add that when you're a developing teenager and you know you have a lot of gay fans, I can imagine the pressure it can have on you because you know they want you to be attracted to the same sex.

Actually, R34, of all the young actors, he might be the most talented.

R1 if only you had a way to find out

Luca Guadagino already knew that about JDG.

r25 is talking through his caftan

He's at 3:00. Very natural acting with Asher Angel.

So his dad is like a Clint Howard

In spite of the "who?" sayers, if he doesn't row this back he's probably the highest profile bi or gay actor under 30 along with Ezra Miller.

At least Finn has grown beyond his previous social media personality of “cringe humor”. He seems to be going for “aloof rock star”, similar to Harry Styles, now.

That's the best bet for idiots. Stop them posting, hide their stupidity and instead try and present an air of mystery.

I'm guessing he'll be one of those bi guys who never dates another guy

First media report in the Gay Times

R49 Oh goodie, he updated his pronouns too

r46 So still unbearable just in a different way.

He’s a (n attention) whore, darlin’!

[quote] /they

He has multiple personality disorder?

Everybody know you have to update your pronouns when you come out as bi 😂

I think he updated his pronouns a few weeks ago already. But to be honest, changing them to "he/they" doesn't really mean anything - you can use "they" for anyone, after all.

He is only 5 feet, 5 inches tall. Does that mean they qualify as a pocket-bi ?

I knew a kid like him in middle school who turned out to be gay. Same kind of energy as the character he played in It... loud, gossipy, dark empath, always had a million little girlfriends following him around. Also this anecdote about him reminds me of the "things you used to do as a young gayling" thread.

Cut or uncut though? Couldn't really tell from his peekaboo in "We Are What We Are."

"Cut or uncut though? "

Only uncut men are obsessive about this info.

[quote] Cut or uncut though? Couldn't really tell from his peekaboo in "We Are What We Are."

Someone above said he's Jewish, so he'd be cut.

In light of this new information, maybe he really wants to kiss Aiden Gallagher "on the bum".

R64, who wouldn’t? Aiden is adorable.

r65

Agreed, but these two have probably some bad blood between each other, stemming from when Aiden attacked Jack for no reason for "not doing enough" to fight climate change.

Im so happy I wasn't a teenager in the age of Instagram and Tiktok where things go viral in 20 seconds. YouTube, MySpace and Facebook were enough in the 2000s and it wasn't hard to erase your embarrassing stuff. I deleted all my old accounts. I'm sure in even 5 years JDG will be cringing so hard at his social media antics.

The weird, elongated way he said it sounded very "Hm, I should I really say this? Oh, I guess I just have..."

Out magazine picked it up as well.

I wonder whether it's they picked it up his fans contacted them demanding they publish about it.

Hm, maybe fans tipped them off, but it's not like they needed much of a push - "Popular actor comes out" is good for clicks.

Has he fucked Asher Angel yet?

Will he be in the CMBYN reboot?

Maybe he fucked Aidan, and that's what was really behind their strange spat.

Or Aidan, like most holier-than-thou environmentalists, is just a cunt.

And yes, Jack is obviously a cunt too.

True, r77 (but my version is more fun).

Would Jack bottom for Aidan?

I see Jack more as the top in that pairing, but would pay good money to watch either (in 2 months, pearl-clutchers, in 2 months!)

Friends who bowl together, stay together.

But which one is the top?

I'm guessing it's not Jack.

I want Asher Angel to sit on my face!

Asher keeps getting paired up with bisexual co-stars - first Joshua Rush, then Jack. Surely at least one of them has been able to tempt him...

I can't wait for Jack's Out cover story where he talks about his coming out journey

R82 Looks like Frank N Furter in his comfy clothing phase

[quote] he's the little shit who couldn't hide his disdain when he knew who would portrait his adult self in It 2.

Seriously? He wishes he’ll grow up half as good looking.

Am I right to say that there are now 2 openly bi DC actors, but no openly bi or gay Marvel actors?

DC has three-Jack, Ezra Miller and Amber Heard.

Marvel has Tessa Thompson.

Thanks, r90 - I should have clarified I only meant male actors though. (Admitting to bisexuality is much less risky for actresses.)

R14 I see newly out Joshua Bassett liked the pics. Are they friends?

R82 Lol! Asher is so obviously the top.

I just remembered that one of his exes claimed he'd once floated the idea of a threesome with Finn Wolfhard - I was skeptical at the time, as it sounded to fan-fiction-y, but now it seems more credible.

Here's Jack, Joshua B, Asher, Aidan, and Joshua R all together at some event:

This quote about "We Are Who We Are" is interesting in retrospect.

[quote] “I’m a very changed person since then,” Grazer says. “There was a lot of awareness that I gained from that show that I didn’t really pay much mind to before. And I learned a lot about myself. Some questions of myself were answered all along the way.”

I'm willing to bet that Jack has probably never even hooked up with a guy. The way he said "I'm biiiii?????" made it sound like he wasn't even sure.

Well, now that the media has caught this he can't exactly backtrack.

r99 It sounded to me like he didn't totally realize what he was doing until he was doing it.

Puhleeeeease, he's beyond feminine. He's fooling no one: he's gay, and a flaming one at that

It reminded me of Tom Daley edging out of the closet by saying he was bi.

R102 What is it with these gen z queens claiming to be bi/lgbtq whatever when their gayness can be seen from outer space? Seriously. At least Jack came out. Joshua didn't even come out as anything. It's obvious he's gay, even though he claims he doesn't know or whatever (that whole interview was confusing).

r101

True. And the thing is, that is something he does all of the time. If you watch his TikToks, he's constantly saying random surreal nonsense, clearly not knowing where he's going with each sentence when he starts it, and surprising himself as he's talking; it's like he's playing Exquisite Corpse with himself.

r102 r104

No, I'm pretty sure he's not gay; he already has a string of ex-gfs, and cheated on all of them.

[quote] It sounded to me like he didn't totally realize what he was doing until he was doing it.

[quote] If you watch his TikToks, he's constantly saying random surreal nonsense, clearly not knowing where he's going with each sentence when he starts it, and surprising himself as he's talking

I agree.

I think that Jack has ADHD. He probably takes meds for it.

He's more than just precocious. He's downright HYPER.

R106 Sure, and then you woke up

Right after this tik tok live he did an Instagram live where he said ‘I touched on an important question’. Seems like he wasn’t prepared to come out and it slipped, but his reaction doesn’t read as regretting to me.

R106 Oh, shut the fuck up! What do you even know? What proof do you even have? I don't even need to click on the video and hear his voice to know he's FLAMING: hair and facial features are enough evidence!

r106 That doesn't mean anything. I had a bf once who had gfs in high school, and if you met him today you wouldn't think that was possible.

[quote] So is he bi or not?

I mean, he could be.

But he also says a lot of things that he doesn't mean. Like verbal diarrhea.

So it's pretty hard to tell. Hyper kids are just that. Hyper.

And they blurt out things they don't really mean, just for the sake of being silly or outrageous.

He's only 17, so we're going to need to watch this one for at least 10 to 15 more years, to figure him out.

Sorry, but "coming out as bi" is like saying "I like ice cream". I don't see the big deal. Why announce this?

R114

Tbf, he just answered a question on a TikTok livestream, then immediately moved on; but it snowballed from fans posting about it on Twitter, to the gay press picking it up, to People and EW picking it up.

But isn't it possible he is bi AND has add? Why is it one or the other? Should we never trust anyone who has add coming out? I think he is bi/gay. Maybe he blurted it out. Maybe it wasn't planned. That doesn't make it any more real. Also, "I touched on an important question" doesn't seem like he regretted it or that it was just a joke. It actually sounds like he meant it.

Some examples of the weird verbal improvs he likes to do:

He’ll come out as a bottom next year.

Trolling about getting a hickey from Noah Schnapp:

Well if he learned anything from that Luca stream of consciousness show, it was how to be a socially awkward violent borderline psychopath and more importantly how to repress your gayness - hours and hours of a boy lusting over hot guys and crushing on a straight marine but decides he isn't gay in the last episode (Luca's self-loathing knows no bounds). A "queer" series where the only sex is straight and some girl-girl but not even a handjob for the gays. Funny how this touted fluid sexuality only runs one way and it ain't gay.

r120 Him and Noah Schnapp in the same room would me more flaming than the gulf of Mexico

[quote] Him and Noah Schnapp in the same room would me more flaming than the gulf of Mexico

Like this, R123?

Yes r124 A level of campness not seen in eons. Or at least since the last Datalounge meetup.

I find Jack endearing.

GenZ kids are so much more interesting than their Millennial counterparts.

They actually have personalities.

His "Shazam" co-star/new bff Rachel Zegler liked this tweet.

When is his birthday? Asking for a friend.

Oh god and he stated his pronouns. lol

[quote] They actually have personalities.

No they don’t. They’re offended by everything, are anti-sex, and into trans shit.

r128

September 3 (so you friend won't have to wait long).

r127

Oh, just saw that she replied to it as well!

She's alerting Asher Angel!

I'd rather see Asher with Jack than someone like Joshua Rush.

Gen Z is just as boring as Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, Silent, etc etc.

Newly out Joshua Bassett and Jack would make a cute couple. Too bad they're probably both bottoms.

Jack probably loved working with Tom Mercier on the set of We Are Who We Are.

R139, it would have been better if we’d had a sex scene.

r97

3 out of 5 boys in this picture have come out as bisexual. (2 to go.)

R141 Joshua Bassett didn't come out as bisexual, he came out as "part of the LGBT community"

r142 So 3/5 of the boy in that photo fuck other boys.

They came out as attention whores, nothing else.

R142 What does that even mean?

It means r142 needs to have it spelled out or he won't believe it could be true. After that, nothing but a sex tape with the date and time on it, where the participants read out their names, dates of birth, their social security numbers, and that day's copy of a reputable newspaper, then subject to forensic study (distinguishing marks, etc.) to determine its authenticity, will satisfy him.

It is a little hard to accept that “being other than straight” won’t come with the difficulties that it came with for older gays. It’s now a marketing tool for corporations and a social media tool for pop stars. There’s of course nothing anyone can do about that, but it does feel raw, and I suspect people are just a little hurt by it.

Because their demographic couldn't care less if they are straight, gay, or bi.

R148

But I don't really think we're quite at this point yet; for female celebrities, yes. But for males, it's still risky to explicitly identify as bi or "queer". I think the fact that Jack ended his live by saying "I've been controversial enough" is telling.

Jack, see ya Sept 3!

I do believe he’s been very actively bi recently.

So he's a Virgo, interesting. He seems more like a Leo, and I say this as a Leo (I'm a very atypical Leo though).

He's as bi as Miss Spacey.

He's still young. A lot of guys came out as bi first as a stepping stone before coming out as gay.

These Hollywood kids are messed up. They are mostly all molested, so they have zero clue what their organic sexuality is.

Jack was too well-connected to be molested, r156.

R156 no, not true.

I think he’s going to end up gay, too.

R157 R158, too may kids in Hollywood turn out “bi” and “gay” for it to simply be organic. Demi Lovato and Miley are train wrecks. They both claim “bi” or “pan”…whatever. The boys start out as “bi”, then later come out as gay….We just see too much of this type of thing in show business for it to be organic. I grew up in a middle class family, there was zero influence on my sexuality. I just always knew I was gay. Just like my siblings knew they were straight. When you read about the shit that goes down at pedo pool parties in Hollywood you have to look at these kids coming out in a new light. That is likely also why they are more promiscuous and suffer more with substance abuse and mental problems.

There are thousands who don’t end up bi or gay. You can cherry pick ones who do but the vast majority do not.

Also, bi is more normal than we all think. Kinsey did this whole thing on the spectrum. Have you heard of him?

Jack seems like he’d be very adventurous and fun in bed. But his personality is exhausting.

Why are you talking about what a 17 year old does in bed R162?

R163 Calm the fuck down. He’s almost 18. 17 is legal in many states. It’s not like I’m going to actually have sex with him.

There was a time when prissy cunts like r163 would have been much too shame- and guilt-riddled not to spend their life deep in the closet. In spite of all the benefits of societal acceptance, I can't help but feel the gay community has lost something by the fact that's no longer the case.

R163 In most countries 16 years old is the age of consent. It is in my country. It's only in puritianical USA that talking about a 17, almost 18, year old would cause controversy.

[quote] When filming was over and it came to go home, Grazer felt “bereft” and found it hard to let the role go. “I felt very empty, purposeless and really down for a while,” he says. “We were both experiencing these identity crises at the same time. I was playing and experiencing these exact same things within my own hormonal evolution or whatever. It was just weird.” It might have been an unusual coincidence but, ultimately, Grazer found immersing himself in the role helped him process muddled feelings. Like Fraser, some of them related to his sexuality and gender identity

I'm not buying that this guy only started to have boners for boys after filming that god awful Luca series - if anything, it would have turned him straight. He comes across as trying very hard to come across as deep but not quite pulling it off...

[quote]For Jack, those family ties haven’t had as much significance on his career as the wider world might think.

Hahahaha, sure. As for the idea no-one in his family thought he might go into acting - then one wonders why they sent him to a performing arts school which has a hard focus on musical theatre.

R168 Agreed, he's trying to pretend there's more to him than there actually is. The interviewer tries hard to portray him as artsy and unique, but everything Jack himself says is mainstream - like wanting to play Indiana Jones. And actually, god, admitting he's focussed on winning an Oscar.

Also, someone needs to tell him to lose the struggle stache.

He probably had those feelings, but the role helped him learn to accept who he was or, even to take time to think about who he was. Lots of kids that age take no time for self-reflection.

[quote] Also, someone needs to tell him to lose the struggle stache

I love the stache - but it's gone for now, on account of Shazam 2.

So, did Disney name the title character in "Luca" after director Luca Guadagnino because the movie is supposed to be a quasi-gay romance in Italy like "Call Me By Your Name"?

Omar Apollo has referenced male lovers in his songs but he's been relatively tightlipped in interviews. He namechecked Taylor Lautner as his first celebrity crush in a recent piece from Kevin Abstract.

I have no idea who he is R175, so I looked up "Omar Apollo."

Damn, he's cute!

Is he gay? Bi?

I'm going to have to do more research on him.

I've created a thread so as not to go to off topic in this one, r176.

[Quote] Is he gay? Bi?

He has a song called "Bi Fren" in which he fumes about the bi guy's "bitch" so Omar is probably a typical DLer.

[quote]In most countries 16 years old is the age of consent. It is in my country. It's only in puritianical USA that talking about a 17, almost 18, year old would cause controversy.

[bold]He is a minor.[/bold]

It is not puritanical to consider a person under the age of 18 a minor. They lack the emotional and physical (the brain still developing) maturity to consent. Muriel has nuked threads in the past for this very reason. An elder lusting over a 15-16 year old is look down upon in pretty much the developed world.

r179

The brain doesn't finish developing until about 25 - and then starts deteriorating at about 27. I guess that leaves us with a good 2 years in which people can "consent" to DLers speculating about what they're like in bed.

R179 he’s not 15 or 16. He’s a month from 18. And 17 is legal in many states. And nobody said they wanted to fuck him.

He looked ugly asf in WRWWR. Clothes were atrocious, ugly ratty blond hair, doughy body and clown shoes.

That aside, you wish him well.

r182 That was the part he was playing. He doesn't look like that now.

R184 I forgot, did his character end up not being gay in the end?

The series WAWWA was too cliche really but had great acting. The last episode- which was excellent- had Jacks character getting together with a trans boy who he was basically in love with.. He had a crush on an older male who tried to have a threesome with Jack with his girlfriend but Jacks character freaked out and left. He has previously been asked about sexuality in general in a Vulture interview and his PR interrupted but he answered the question anyway but kept it about the character. All this horrible stuff on this thread and judgement and prejudice for some one that is so young is so gross. People are bisexual and have always been bisexual. They are just more able to act on it and express it. Are their normal, open people on data lounge anymore? I really hope for a flood of younger people on here that are more accepting. I am in my 40s and yes it’s a different world. But people being open or questioning of their sexuality should be celebrated.

R186 Glad I didn't watch the show based on that.

I can’t believe he turned down the gorgeous soldier, although I kinda get it, if the gf had to be there 🤮 I was most intrigued by the non-commander wife fucking Cudi’s wife. Their hookups were very sensual, even if I didn’t find them sexually exciting. Cudi was cringey AF. The young trans man had gorgeous hair before he chopped it off.

R188

In spite of the director and the setting, it was still an American co-production with an American cast - they were never going to show a 14-year-old getting involved with a grown man, at least not without framing it as something horrifying.

So tired of these FEM GAY BOYS pretending to be bisexual.....And the actual bisexuals want to be called Pansexuals.....yawn...Whoever this Jack Grazer is I hope he learns to MAN UP---nothing hot about a guy who is girly........

He posted this to his IG story (then deleted it again) - looks like we'll have to wait till we see him with a bf.

"So tired of these FEM GAY BOYS pretending to be bisexual.....And the actual bisexuals want to be called Pansexuals.....yawn...Whoever this Jack Grazer is I hope he learns to MAN UP---nothing hot about a guy who is girly........"

Bigot.

R190 should know. Here's his picture.

R192 You're just proving R190's point by posting that frog,

Rachel Zegler weighs in to make clear she's not the girl Jack is kissing in that pic, lol.

He probably lied about being bi, just like Joshua Bassett.

Meaning they're gay or meaning they're straight, r196?

R197 Probably straight attention whores.

If Bassett is lying, he was planning this charade since season one of HSM, which he promoted at one interview with the claim that he broke down watching the gay couple (who are a couple in real life) dancing together at a formal.

It's funny how when a celebrity comes out as bi, half the people think they're actually gay and the other half think they're actually straight!

Regarding Jack, I do believe he is bi, but based on his dating history, I think it's more a 90% vs 10% thing rather than a 50/50 one.

Plus there's still the possibility he said it as a 'joke' but he now can't back away from it without offending.

Or it's part of his attempt to put himself across as deeper than he actually is, like that interview posted upthread.

[Quote] Regarding Jack, I do believe he is bi, but based on his dating history, I think it's more a 90% vs 10% thing rather than a 50/50 one.

I wouldn't jump to than conclusion. It takes balls to claim a boyfriend in this world when you're male. Add in celebrity...

I agree, Joshua and Jack are not bi. They're full-on gay.

R203 Then how do you explain the girlfriends?

“I’m bi” = “I’ll present hole for the right part”

He probably said he is bi because of the role he is promoting, it is frowned upon nowadays to be straight and steal a lgbt role from an actual lgbt actor.

Not really. You're mistaking a storm n a teacup for a real hubbub.

There are more on her account.

R210 I'm shocked he's a straight asshole! Not. He probably lied about being bi.

Weren't there accusations like this a few years ago?

Plus he made a homophobic comment at some point, right? Also, I do remember for a fact when he was caught smoking weed he ratted his friends out and blamed peer pressure lol.

Wasn’t it reported here he sent a sex tape to friends of him having sex with his gf when he was 11 or 12?

I heard he did car commercials in Japan.

Here he is with the girl.

[quote] Weren't there accusations like this a few years ago?

I believe the earlier gf just accused him of verbal/emotional abuse; this is the first time he's being accused of being physically abusive.

r210 Wow. He really did identify with his character in Luca's TV series!

[quote]Uh oh - he's in trouble.

"slapped her many times" cracked me up.

This video was his reaction when his first gf accused him of cheating/being abusive; you can clearly hear his mom whispering directions from the sidelines, lol.

He seems thrilled to be talking about the "drama."

I don’t believe the allegations. He came out and str8 girls aren’t happy.

It's time for Jack to slap around a boyfriend.

Finn Wolfhard is another queeny fem boy....And what exactly was Finns "relationship" with his Agent---who had male accusers?

I wouldn't raise the possibility of sexual abuse by using the word "relationship."

R227

That agent was into 17-year-olds with Easter Island Heads, not whispy 13-year-olds.

R210 Imagine having that much drama at 17

I don't think it's immoral to find 16 to 17 year old boys attractive if they are 6 feet tall, with deep voices and look physically developed. You know the signs of being a man. Obviously, they are emotionally immature and you can tell when they open their mouths. But JDG looks and acts like a prepubescent kid and his voice is still high-pitched, so the idea of desiring him is just odd to me.

JDG is so FEM ....And he is POOR....

Brian Grazer's nephew is poor?

r235 Did you uncle often pay you large sums of money?

He’s not a great actor. You can “see” him acting.

A Tammie Brown, if you will.

In the video he is drinking with ONE PINKY sticking out......Even his hands are flamers.....LoL

He got rid of the pronounce.

Some people must be sweating bullets rn trying to keep this from getting picked up by the media.

Are we supposed to know who this is?

r243

If you're interested enough in popular culture to visit DL, yes.

[quote]Some people must be sweating bullets rn trying to keep this from getting picked up by the media.

Who is he that anyone cares enough to bother?

R245

For one thing, he's a major part of a successful superhero franchise whose sequel is just being filmed.

Not surprised about the recent relevations. I knew he lied about being bi, just like Bassett did.

Are some of you suggesting that domestic abuse is a sign of heterosexuality?

I hit her because she didn’t have a penis!!

Oof, what a hilariously sad turn this has taken.

I said I was bi too when I was a teenager. It was a lie.

He did this to gained sympathy because he knew this was all going to come out.

[quote] he uses girls for his se*ual appeal

Lmao

Jesus, she’s an idiot. He is too, but wow.

r253 I mean he's not A list famous. But if he'd been stood at a carnival parade making out with everyone that walked by for "FIVE MINUTES" I'd think it'd have at least been noticed more than once.

r257 Celebrity running a kissing booth x location (Road+carnival) = many witness

Him actually engaging with them on this is not a good plan.

I'm going to admit, after how he ragged on Ransone, I'm going to love it if Jack wrecks his own career before he even turns 18.

[quote] Him actually engaging with them on this is not a good plan.

Or sounding like a tv villain while engaging with them.

From uwu non-binary bi softboi to toxic male domestic abuser in one week. Sad.

Once he hits 18, I’m thinking the onlyfans will launch.

DMs are easy to fake. C'mon now.

R262 He doesn’t have the body for it. He’s doughy.

R265. Have you not fucking heard one wiki, asswipe?

"He is LEGAL!!! He is LEGAL!!!....In 42 days!!! I only care because of how "great"of an actor he is"---DataLounge Queens...

In case anyone is keeping track Jack’s IT co-star Wyatt Oleff turned 18 today

Olaff made a Pride post. I don't follow him so I don't if that's significant.

Once he can no longer be cast as a 15 year old high school boy---also known as a "Victor Salazar"---DL will lose interest.

He definitely has issues with physical boundaries.

r268 Twitter really has it in for the cast of IT.

R273

I saw that - it's frightening how many fangirls will immediately accept an anonymous accusation that sounds like badly written fan fiction as truth. If someone questions it, they will say "always believe the victim", without realizing the circular logic of that statement; that's what dumb SJW slogans do to impressionable young minds.

R273

I was raped by Wyatt, Jack, Jaeden, *and* Finn Wolfhard. OK, it was only in my fantasies, but I still think they should be held accountable!

Wyatt is staight and has a girlfriend named Erin.

r266, he is a nobody worth my effort to google or wiki. Someone who cares who he is could simply just type a line or two here. I will not search for him.

Then telling you who he is is not worth my time, R277.

R268 He's the pretentious prick who actually gave the guy playing his character's adult version in It 2 notes on how to play it properly, isn't he?

R279 Someone hasn't heard of the Streisand effect.

For some reason the part where it says his lawyer to Jack and his mom is hilarious to me. Who gives a shit about her? Mommy clearly likes her drama.

Is sharing character cliffnotes that weird? I'd think it'd be pretty useful when you're both meant to be playing the same guy. It was an amazing casting choice though given all Bean had to do was turn up for 3 minutes. Show his ass and slit his wrists.

R282 Yes, giving another actor notes is seen as a major asshole move.

R281

His mom seems like a controlling bitch.

Wow, what a cunt. Jack must hate her to have recorded that and - I assume - sent it to someone who then posted it online?

"What can you do for me? How can you earn that?"

Oof. Someone give Jack the contact details for Jennette McCurdy STAT.

Damn. At 18, get the fuck out, kid.

Has Closet Queen Levi commented yet?.....I was so surprised that his lavender marriage to the Lesbian ended in divorce.

Saw a tweet about two ex-girlfriends alleging assault. It's not only one, allegedly. Which begs the question why he even came out as bi. He only has ex-girlfriends. No ex-boyfriends in sight. Bet he only came out to get sympathy because he knew the ex would out him as an abuser (again, allegedly). Just like Bassett came out because he had a ton of bad pr after Olivia's new music which is clearly about him. I don't believe either is bi or gay. They're both straight.

r290 I think he's busy doing damage control after every girl he's ever so much looked at is saying he violently abused them. Also lets be real he's never actually going to do anything more than just flirt with guys.

He’s bi but just recently had that awakening so he’s not going to have boyfriends yet. Boy wouldn’t it be something if he did and was abusive to them!

He may be violent towards girls because he’s gay and something inside him reacted violently about those feelings.

Or, maybe he said he was bi because he is a smartass.

[Quote] He may be violent towards girls because he’s gay and something inside him reacted violently about those feelings.

Posts like the above remind me that gay people can be as stupid as str8 people.

If anything, Jack probably gets slap happy with women because he has (stage) Mommy issues.

In all honesty I think his issue is he's an overly physical ADHD ridden spaz. There plenty of videos out there of him verbally and physically assaulting his castmates.. He's called Wyatt "a fucking Jew" he tried to drown Jaeden , and he threw a water bottle at Asher's nuts. He didn't seem to do that stuff in mean spirit but If he does half that level of horseplay with his girlfriends then they should probably put him on meds.

But the gf stuff has been accompanied by verbal abuse... The "jew" thing at Oleff is a joke because Grazer is also Jewish.

Doesn’t everyone regret their many teenage, hormone-fuled idiotic moments?

But we're talking a pattern of abuse here. That audio above shows that his mother is not doing her job. Her resentment of his father should not involve Jack. I hate when parents refuse to handle their business and involve the children in it.

He's a little creepy when playing to camera.

Grazer is Roman Catholic, not Jewish.

r297 His uncle describes himself as non practicing "half Jewish" which would probably make Jack a quarter. So I'm not sure he really gets the privilege of yelling "you fucking Jew" at someone.

Someone should change Wiki, then.

That's beside the point. Grazer thinking he's being funny with Oleff is not the same as berating his gf's, with a side of physical abuse.

Grazer most likely practices no religion.

I think both acts are indicative of being an asshole. He’s confident that he’s funny, that people around him will tolerate his jokes/pranks/teases. I doubt he sees his behavior toward either victim as bad. It’s funny to him and brings him joy.

He makes that comment to Olef when he knows they're livestreaming. I bet he's been smart enough not to make demeaning comments to his girlfriend while they were livestreaming or similar.

[quote]Someone should change Wiki, then.

Those lists are notoriously iffy. Slash (Saul Hudson) from Guns n' Roses talked about being in the "Big Book of Jewish Celebrities" or some publication despite not being Jewish.

R305. I have friends who are “culturally Jewish” but aren’t practicing.

R309 He's not even culturally Jewish though. He's a quarter Jewish on his dad's side. AKA not Jewish in any defintion of the word since its passed maternaly.

He's lucky Shazam is a DC property, they seemingly have no problem with men being violent towards women

You're being a stickler with the maternal stipulation.

^^Truth. My (converted) brother and his wife don’t give a damn about the maternal link.

R312 I mean it's somewhat important when you're deciding if someone can be anti semetic. His dad's brother has said he dosent feel Jewish and is now Catholic. Unless Jack has suddenly decided he wants to be jack is in no way Jewish either ethnically or culturally. So no I don't think he's allowed to make the remark.

Do the Jews really want him? If so, you can have him.

He should be true to himself and come out as gay once and for all. Date men, much less drama.

Yeah, right. Men don't take well to being slapped around.

He is 18 and can pass as a 14 year old....The PERFECT boyfriend for some of these creepy DL Queens. ....VIDEO CLIP------>>You know THAT guy is a DL Member.....LoL

But this thread isn't thirsting over Jack Dylan Grazer...

Not legal until September R318

R320 I don’t think we want him when he’s legal, either. He is barely cute and has a terrible body. His personality is a huge turn off.

It's so cruel how Froy's threads keep getting paywalled but this shitty inappropriate thread keeps on going. This is not right guys!

Unfortunately for you that means this thread has more unique posters than Froylan is getting.

Judging by his look in these pictures the drama seems to have taken its toll on him.

News flash: The sun rises in the east.

r324 How olds his girlfriend? She looks like an instaho in her late 20s.

r327

He posted himself kissing a brunette last week, so apparently she's just a friend - unless he has a [italic]really[/italic] fast turnover.

Ah yes, they were already hanging out years ago:

R324 Oof, he better make all the money he can now because he's not gonna be able to get hired in a couple of years if he keeps aging like that.

Taking Asher's little bro skirt shopping:

Some celebrities just say shit like this to get attention. It’s pitiful pandering.

That and Jack's shown in the past he never thinks about what he's saying.

In DL-relevant news: he's listening to the "Valley of the Dolls" soundtrack atm.

He could actually do a good Dory Previn for Halloween.

Do we think Luca G included the dick slip on purpose?

R337 Luca Guadagnino, director of "We Are Who We Are" (and "Call Me By Your Name"), not "Luca" the Pixar film

Did Luca Guadagnino purposefully allow HBO to show a 16 year olds penis? Sounds like something he'd do.

R339. This happened. Wow.

r339 Are there really any DLers who would want to see that?

It didn't happen. No, HBO is not going to broadcast a kid's dick.

Lol at the people utterly scandalized by the thought of showing a 16-year-old's dick on TV. Have you seen any non-American cinema?

Tell me more about all this underage genitalia you've been going aboard to watch.

Somehow I'm not surprised that r346 hasn't realized that you can watch foreign films without leaving the US.

r347 Ah so you're just getting these completely tasteful Eastern European and South East Asian films from the dark web. Your lawyer must love you.

R349 seeing as how the average DLer is an old ass boomer, it is still pretty gross.

r350

Many - if not most, globally speaking - people find all same-sex attraction "pretty gross", so if we cared about what random people find gross, we'd all be deep in the closet.

R351 umm….comparing homosexuality between men who are relatively close in age and life experience, to old farts in their sixties and seventies lusting over a teen boy who JUST turned 18 is not even close to being the same thing. Some of you are sad old pervs.

R352

Well, your argument was that it's "gross" - that's theirs to, and they outnumber you.

From Oscar Wilde over Christopher Isherwood and Alan Turing to Harvey Milk, all the gay historical icons were into boys like Jack - but if you prefer to start your heritage with Pete Buttigieg to appeal to American frau sensibilities, it's your decision.

Who doesnt like boys, but I mean only legally.

I wonder what Luca Guadagnino would have him do now

R355 The love story with transman?

r255 What WOULDN'T he have him do??

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